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Re: Racist Sabeel Conference Coming to Boston

http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2007/09/charles-jacobs-et-tu-tutu/

Most of our parents voted for Stevenson, despised McCarthy and fought racism before the rest of America saw it was the right thing to do. We stood with Martin Luther King and were crushed when he – and John and Bobby Kennedy – were killed. We hated Nixon, boycotted grapes with Caesar Chavez, cheered for Bella and Gloria on women’s rights and defeated apartheid in South Africa.
Like most of America’s Jews, we’re LFBs – Liberals From Birth. Why? Because Jewish and American values are in almost perfect harmony.

On Israel, we were never uncritical, but loyal to the cause of a Jewish homeland and to the Jews who fought to keep it. Not only because we were Jews, but also because tiny beleaguered Israel is, or should be a, liberal cause.

But it’s not. Not now. Many of our friends disagree with us about Israel, and in increasingly disagreeable ways. They got the story wrong, from the media, from academics, and from clergy. Painfully, we see former allies, even heroes of past struggles, attacking the Jewish state – and its supporters: us.

So what will Boston’s Jews do when Desmond Tutu, the anti-apartheid hero who likens Israeli treatment of Arabs to apartheid, headlines an anti-Israel hate-fest at the Old South Church in October? The “Israel Apartheid” Conference is organized by Sabeel, whose leader says Israelis are “crucifying” Arabs like the Jews did Jesus.


The two-day rant against Israel features speakers who pose as human rights activists who care about injustice – yet their concerns are oh so selective. Israel is an “apartheid state,” they say, with an “apartheid wall.” It’s worse for Palestinians than South Africa was for blacks. It’s the world’s worst human rights situation. None of this is close to being true.
Israel’s Arab citizens vote, are elected to the Knesset, and enjoy better health care and education than most Arabs in the region. Yes, Arabs in the territories are treated differently, yet not because of their “race” – but because their leaders are at war with Israel. Israelis don’t act on the basis of race, like white South Africans did. Shame on Desmond Tutu for deliberately ignoring all this.

Calling Israel racist pleases the Sabeel-ites, but has nothing to do with a concern for justice. There is real apartheid in the Middle East – racist apartheid: blacks slaughtered and enslaved by Arabs in Sudan; gender apartheid: women in Saudi Arabia may not drive cars or walk unaccompanied; religious apartheid: churches cannot be built in Saudi Arabia and Jews can’t be citizens in Jordan. It’s not justice these folks are fixated upon, it’s the Jewish state.

Some Boston Jews and LFB’s may have turned away from this conflict. But now it’s time to choose: When Tutu comes, many of us will protest. If the anti-Israel demagogues are led by a black man who led his people to freedom – but who attacks and defames another free people – Israel’s and America’s Jews must decide: Which side will you be on?
 

Racist Boston Sabeel

Some felt Sabeel didn't go far enough...
How dare some of the token Jewish speakers claim Israel has a right to exist!
Oh, I suppose, they were there for "balance"

"Jeff Halper of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions likewise exuded a bossy ambiguity. A native Minnesotan who plugged in his “birthright” but then apparently was dismayed to discover that his fellow Israelis were not so very nice, Halper exhorted the assemblage to take the apartheid-in-the-occupied-territories route because (this was said hurriedly, emphatically) “the single state is a non-starter”. The glaring, nay screaming contradiction of opposing both apartheid and a single democratic state thus hung in the air. Nevertheless, Halper made me wax nostalgic putting me in mind of my local UFPJ shop steward who waggled her finger at me some years ago and declared that a mysterious entity which she was pleased to call “our community” did not want to hear about the single state, and if I continued to rudely bring it up, I should go form my own group. She may even have concluded her scolding in the playground idiom of my youth, “So there!” but I cannot swear to it."

JA Miller
 

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Re: Racist Sabeel Conference Coming to Boston

by Simon Deng, human rights activist

www.thejewishadvocate.com/this_weeks_issue/columnists/jacobs/

Late last month, I went to hear Bishop Desmond Tutu speak at Boston’s Old South Church at a conference on “Israel Apartheid.” Tutu is a well respected man of God. He brought reconciliation between blacks and whites in South Africa. That he would lead a conference that damns the Jewish state is very disturbing to me.

The State of Israel is not an apartheid state. I know because I write this from Jerusalem where I have seen Arab mothers peacefully strolling with their families – even though I also drove on Israeli roads protected by walls and fences from Arab bullets and stones. I know Arabs go to Israeli schools, and get the best medical care in the world. I know they vote and have elected representatives to the Israeli Parliament. I see street signs in Arabic, an official language here. None of this was true for blacks under Apartheid in Tutu’s South Africa.

I also know countries that do deserve the apartheid label: My country, Sudan, is on the top of the list, but so are Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. What has happened to my people in Sudan is a thousand times worse than Apartheid in South Africa. And no matter how the Palestinians suffer, they suffer nothing compared to my people. Nothing. And most of the suffering is the fault of their leaders. Bishop Tutu, I see black Jews walking down the street here in Jerusalem. Black like us, free and proud.

Tutu said Israeli checkpoints are a nightmare. But checkpoints are there because Palestinians are sent into Israel to blow up and kill innocent women and children. Tutu wants checkpoints removed. Do you not have doors in your home, Bishop? Does that make your house an apartheid house? If someone, Heaven forbid, tried to enter with a bomb, we would want you to have security people “humiliating” your guests with searches, and we would not call you racist for doing so. We all go through checkpoints at every airport. Are the airlines being racist? No.

Yes, the Palestinians are inconvenienced at checkpoints. But why, Bishop Tutu, do you care more about that inconvenience than about Jewish lives?

Bishop, when you used to dance for Mandela’s freedom, we Africans – all over Africa – joined in. Our support was key in your freedom. But when children in Burundi and Kinshasa, all the way to Liberia and Sierra Leone, and in particular in Sudan, cried and called for rescue, you heard but chose to be silent.

Today, black children are enslaved in Sudan, the last place in the continent of Africa where humans are owned by other humans – I was part of the movement to stop slavery in Mauritania, which just now abolished the practice. But you were not with us, Bishop Tutu.
So where is Desmond Tutu when my people call out for freedom? Slaughter and genocide and slavery are lashing Africans right now. Where are you for Sudan, Bishop Tutu? You are busy attacking the Jewish state. Why?

Simon Deng, a native of the Shiluk Kingdom in southern Sudan, is an escaped jihad slave and a leading human rights activist.
 

Re: Racist Sabeel Conference Coming to Boston

Some felt Sabeel didn't go far enough...
How dare some of the token Jewish speakers claim Israel has a right to exist!
Oh, I suppose, they were there for "balance"

"Jeff Halper of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions likewise exuded a bossy ambiguity. A native Minnesotan who plugged in his “birthright” but then apparently was dismayed to discover that his fellow Israelis were not so very nice, Halper exhorted the assemblage to take the apartheid-in-the-occupied-territories route because (this was said hurriedly, emphatically) “the single state is a non-starter”. The glaring, nay screaming contradiction of opposing both apartheid and a single democratic state thus hung in the air. Nevertheless, Halper made me wax nostalgic putting me in mind of my local UFPJ shop steward who waggled her finger at me some years ago and declared that a mysterious entity which she was pleased to call “our community” did not want to hear about the single state, and if I continued to rudely bring it up, I should go form my own group. She may even have concluded her scolding in the playground idiom of my youth, “So there!” but I cannot swear to it."

JA Miller
 

Re: Racist Sabeel Conference Coming to Boston

Press Release from Women in Black- they are really coming around.


For many years, a coalition of progressives including Women in Black, the SF ADC, and Jewish Voice for Peace organized a Christmas eve vigil in Union Square in support of the Palestinians. In good faith, we agreed we could not do it again this year. More and more it seems the worse enemy of the Palestinian people are the Palestinian leadership. The murder of Christians in Gaza, the call for a future Palestinian state to be empty of Jews, the continued bombing of S'derot while the first peace talks in 7 years were being conducted, and the racism and humiliation shown to the Jewish delegates at Annapolis were all factors in our decision.

We will continue to support the true peacemakers, in the Bay area, in the nation, and in the world.

www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/12/27/18468987.php
 

"Press Release from Women in Black"

This is another Zionist false flag op, not the real Women in Black. If this were a real Women in Black press release, it would appear on their website. It doesn't. See for yourself:

tinyurl.com/3c5caj

This is not the first time Zionists have tried to impersonate Women in Black. Impersonating their enemies is standard operating procedure for these lying, racist colonialists. For another example of Zionists impersonating their enemies, Google "nessie indymedia forgery" and see what comes up:

tinyurl.com/2tcga5
 

Women in Black protest Sabeel

Thats nonsense. Firstly, the WinB claim a Zionist group was responsible- the accused Zionist group has thousands of photos on their website of their events- not one of protesting Sabeel. They list all of the events they participated in- they didn't mention Sabeel. Its not on their calendar, its not in their archives. And if you Google Women in Black, you find refernces to unconditional support for Israel. Methinks you doth protest too much.
 
Reply: Re: Women in Black protest Sabeel / 23 Mar 2008

a sad lack of critical reasoning skills

>the accused Zionist group has thousands of photos on their website of their events- not one of protesting Sabeel. They list all of the events they participated in- they didn't mention Sabeel. Its not on their calendar, its not in their archives.

So what? All that does is reaffirm that they are engaging in a false flag op. By definition, the true source of all false flag ops, especially black propaganda, is hidden and disguised and our attention is directed elsewhere.

What? You expected these people to give away their game, just like that? They're not fools, you know. The people who fall for their tricks, however, are fools one and all.

* * * * *

>And if you Google Women in Black, you find refernces to unconditional support for Israel.

(1.) Zionists routinely post their propaganda under the names of their enemies. It's a very, very old political tactic. It long predates Zionism itself.

See:

sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1555696_comment.php


(2.) To find references to *anything* in the course of a Google search is only a matter of time. It is abundantly evident that like all too many people these days, this "Anonymous Poster" is sorely in need of the ability to subject what appears in the course of a Google search to critical analysis. Unfortunately, critical reasoning skills are ill taught our government run education system. The very last thing the powers that be want in this life is a population that knows how to reason. That is why all too many people these days can see the results of a Google search displayed on their screens, and yet have know idea what they are actually looking at, what it really means, or even how it got to be there in the first place.

See:

technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article318209


>Methinks you doth protest too much.

To not protest such deep and fundamental dishonesty would be a moral atrocity. To *only* protest, is not enough. It is long past time that we advance beyond protest. Protest alone has accomplished nothing.
 
Reply: Oaklnad Women in Black Website / 06 Apr 2008

From our website by a real Women in Balck

Many women in black are Zionist- why do you think this precludes participation? I've been a participant for seven years now- and I think you don't have a clue what W in B are about.

From, our website: Women In Black stand in silent vigil to protest war, rape as a tool of war, ethnic cleansing and human rights abuses all over the world. We are silent because mere words cannot express the tragedy that wars and hatred bring. We refuse to add to the cacophony of empty statements that are spoken with the best intentions yet may be erased or go unheard under the sound of a passing ambulance or a bomb exploding nearby.

Our silence is visible. We invite women to stand with us, reflect about themselves and women who have been raped, tortured or killed in concentration camps, women who have disappeared, whose loved ones have disappeared or have been killed, whose homes have been demolished. We wear black as a symbol of sorrow for all victims of war, for the destruction of people, nature and the fabric of life.

Women in Black is an international peace network. Women in Black is not an organization, but a means of mobilization and a formula for action.

We do not take sides in this or any conflict- in the middle east, for example, the Palestinians are at least as responsibile for the perpetuation of the state of war as the Israelis are.
 
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From Wikipedia from a real women in Black

Women in Black is an anti-war organization. Estimates say there are about 10,000 members world wide. Though there is no agreement upon constitution between the various segments world wide, all members believe that male violence against women in domestic life and war are connected. Women In Black is often perceived to be a left-wing political group although many of its members employ the political tactic of claiming their organization is beyond ideology.


You must be male- in your insistence of who we are and what we are to believe.
 

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